Never mind

Kim kn.green at nospamvirgin.net
Mon Jun 9 15:23:44 EST 2003

It would occur to me that the best way to get "adopted" by a group whose 
research and interests were similar to yours, would be to approach them 
with your ideas, and what you can do for them. Once in such a group, 
publishing becomes much easier when you have the "right" names on the 
papers (and I assume that getting your work published is a large goal to 

I, of course, realise that you have probably done this many times before 
and so far it has not been successful. I would therefore seriously suggest 
that you present your ideas and work in a new fashion. One that presents 
itself in a simple and highly accessible manner - I would imagine that many 
people would give your work only a fleeting glance due to your status. 
Therefore a simply summary/abstract with a nice clear flow type diagram 
always works well, with greater detail later. 

I would publish this on the web (which is very easy to do and, if needed, I 
will assist) and include the address with a cover email to any researchers 
whom you feel would be interested in your work. 
Clearly state your interests and previous research and what you can do for 
the lab along with the web page link. All in all try and take up as little 
time as possible for the recipient researcher to grasp what you have done, 
and what you want to continue to do. Hence a simple web page with a simple 
abstract/summary and flow diagrams etc. would be best with the detailed 
information later on, once their curiosity has increased. 

Maybe you should ask to work as a research technician - certainly here in 
the UK we have such people who carry out their own research and publish. 
Remember only a tiny percentage of scientists will ever see this newsgroup, 
and so I always feel the pro-active approach works best, so email away!

I do not know your history, and you have certainly been in "science" far 
longer than I have, although my own career is highly conventional, but that 
is the advice I would give you, without wanting to be patronising or 

Perhaps the other researchers who do read these newsgroup postings would 
add their comments/suggestions? I get the impression they would be 


"KP_PC" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:Ii5Fa.196148
$ja4.10397463 at bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

> Oh Dear Kim!
> Your Gentle-Caring touches my
> 'tired-heart'.
> My specific problem stems from the debt
> I accumulated while doing my research.
> Because of it, I could not apply to programs
> even though they are often funded here in the
> U. S. also.
> I wouldn't have been able to make the
> monthly payments.
> Now, I'm debt-free, but have been living
> from day-to-day in greatly-'unsettled'
> circumstances - basically, out of boxes,
> while my Dad's estate is being 'settled'.
> It's hard to 'gear-up' for a PhD program
> when one is living out of boxes.
> The other thing about them is that it'd
> 'force' me to go back into the 'dark
> ages', and I just don't know if my Spirit
> would be 'tolerable' to others - it'd be
> always wanting to 'lift-up' just about
> everything that it encountered in a
> 'standard' PhD program
> But I do hope I'll be picked-up by some
> group that just wants to do Good-Neuro-
> science, or Physics, or both.
> But, because of the Spirit-Stuff, I'm
> trying to leave my coming somewhere
> up to others - folks who Love Science,
> and who'll be Glad to receive the work
> I've done, and to 'tolerate me' :-]
> Perhaps if I can get my stuff out of boxes,
> I'll, then, be able to pursue the PhD
> route - but perhaps not. I'll soon be 56, and
> who wants to 'invest' in a 56-year-old?
> It's been a Hard Life - I've Rarely experienced
> Joy like your Gentle-Caring has 'breathed' into
> my Being.
> For this 'moment' it's not so Hard.
> So Thank You, Kim.
> Love, ken
> [Can I say "Love" to a Stranger? kpc]
> "Kim" <kn.green at nospamvirgin.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9395A6401D0C7kimnopsamclaracouk at
>| Ken,
>| Do a Phd! That would lead you to
>| where you want to be. I am not quite
>| sure of the way funding works in the
>| USA and I have read you are put off
>| by the cost to yourself. One option is
>| to look to the UK. You would just
>| need to approach the right "supervisor"
>| as you are "paid" to research
>| here.
>|  "KP_PC" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:RP%Da.112675
>| $cO3.8212348 at bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>| > Never mind.
>| >
>| > I'm 'tired' of 'begging'.
>| >
>| > I'll just take it as an 'adventure'.
>| >
>| > Get in my 'sation-wagon', and drive off into
>| > the 'sunset'.
>| >
>| > "Amen, amen, amen."
>| >
>| > ken
>| >
>| > --
>| > "Schmitd! Schmitd! Ve vill build a Shapel!"
>| >
>| > "KP_PC" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>| >
> news:w1PDa.111674$cO3.8135637 at bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>| >|
>| >
>| >

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