gmsizemore2 at yahoo.com (Glen M. Sizemore) wrote in
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> B: My idea basically stemed from the fact that people always look at
> synaptic placsticity in the VTA or the Nucleus Accumbens when they are
> interested in drugs of abuse..
>> GS: Do they look for "plasticity?" People, no doubt look at the NAcc
> after exposure to self-administered drugs (or drugs administered
> response-independently), but you almost seem to be implying that it is
> this site where "learning takes place." I think that the role of the
> NAcc is thought to be more of the place where "reinforcement signals"
> are generated. Certainly, though, changes in the NAcc after extended
> exposure to the drug might be thought to reflect the change from
> "recreational use" to "addiction."
No, they really do. Looks at TIPS, vol 26 No 4. I quote "Other recent
studies have focused on influences by drugs of abuse on synaptic function
and/or plasticity in the VTA".
> B: I don't really know why, I wouldn't have
> thought palsticity there would have explained addiction very well. I
> always thought that plasticity in the cortex would have far more
> interesting, i.e. when the reward coincides with a stimuli, then the
> cortical cells which code/interpret/are activated by that stimuli will
> strengthen there synapses with other downstream neurons, increases the
> attentional weighting of the stimuli. But it would be very hard to
> find a
> neuron which is strongly activated by a particular stimuli (I assume).
> I thought, place cells seem easy enough to find...
>> GS: Perhaps the NAcc, and other parts of the basal ganglia and VTA
> etc., produce a diffuse release of neurotransmitter into the PFC,
> association cortices etc., and this produces LTP in the synapses
> between sensory related neurons and motor related neurons. Here, the
> "plasticity" could be "in the cortex," in the sense that that it is
> here that a crucial step is occurring, and changes in NAcc function
> (another kind of plasticity) would drive the "cortex system." I'm not
> really advocating this, I'm just pointing out the ambiguity of your
Well thats exactly how I would have expected people would have thought it
would happen, an increase in cortical synaptic strength.
> GS: Fortunately or unfortunately, if you can drive a 20-electrode
> gizmo into a rat's head and find orderly relations between behavior
> and physiology, you can pretty much make up any silly story you want
> to, and it'll be called "science."
But of course, I've realised the flaw in my proposed experiment,
hippocampal place cells (at least in theory) represent current positions,
not the goal. What I would want to do, is record from prefrontal cortex
(or perhaps supplementary motor cortex) cells which represent goals. I've
read a couple papers about them (goal cells), one done in humans, doing
the old taxi driver game, but there doesn't seem to be such a reliable
way of recording them. Still... it was a nice idea