First Causes

Lester Zick lesterDELzick at worldnet.att.net
Tue Sep 7 15:19:54 EST 2004

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 11:16:05 +0200, "JPL Verhey"
<matterDELminds at hotmail.com> in comp.ai.philosophy wrote:

>"dan michaels" <feedbackdroids at yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>news:8d8494cf.0409062130.a4e0845 at posting.google.com...
>>> The only cause which supplies its own proof as first cause is the idea
>>> of differences and cognates of differences: negation, contradiction,
>>> not, etc. and that principle compounded in terms of itself. Neither
>>> Aristotle's prime mover unmoved nor god is proven of itself. Nor are
>>> evolution and the natural selection of species proven with respect to
>>> the categories and transitions between the categories.
>> The other equally ridiculous idea that you left out is the fairly
>> recent idea that nothing exists i nthe unvierse without mind making it
>> so, and that the mind is somehow wrapped up in quantum physics. Some
>> such gooblediegook.
>Yet this notion is absolutely correct in the sense that any conscious 
>experience - from thoughts and emotions to objects seen around you in the 
>world "out there" including stars and galaxies - are all brain process - 
>out of convenience called mind - and occuring within your own skull. Quantum 
>processes (such as photon emissions and absorbtions) DO occur in the brain 
>(as elsewhere) so another rediculous idea would be presuming that quantum 
>processes are not part of conscious brain processes, called mind. I would 
>think that this folly is a by-product of the fairly recent folly  that mind 
>is not real, having no causal efficacy, an epiphenomenon at best.

Or we might just say that what is in the brain are differences and
the only inferences capable of being drawn have to be drawn in terms
of differences in relation to one another.

Regards - Lester

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