brain sizes: Einstein's and women's and miscegenation
k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net
Wed Sep 4 14:06:06 EST 2002
John Knight wrote in message ...
"Kenneth Collins" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:iNgd9.9522$jG2.715594 at bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> John Knight wrote in message
> <_H5d9.42563$Ic7.3225328 at news2.west.cox.net>...
> >"Kenneth Collins" <k.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >news:013d9.8354$jG2.622019 at bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> John Knight wrote in message ...
> >> >
> >> >"You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial
> >> the poor
> >> >or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your
> >> neighbor",
> >> >Leviticus 19:15
> >> "In righteousness" - in-Truth - Truth is that every 'poor' person
> >> I've ever come across, except folks suffering disease conditions,
> >> 'poor' because of stuff with respect to which she/he was Innocent.
> >> "Righteousness" is telling-it-as-it-is with respect to such.
> >And that means removing from the community "every brother that
> >disorderly", or who don't follow God's Commandments, doesn't it?
> >> >"You shall not show partiality in judgment; you shall hear the
> >> as well
> >> >as the great; you shall not be afraid in any man's presence, for
> >> >judgment is God's", Deuteronomy 1:17
> >> Even if he's a bafoon.
> >This makes no sense. Of course nobody's afraid of a "bafoon". This
> is a
> >reference to those in power who pretend to follow God's Commandments
> >don't. This instruction is to judge even them, so it actually
> >> >"...we command you, brethren, on the name of our Lord Jesus
> >> that ye
> >> >withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly,
> >> not
> >> >after the tradition which he received of us", 2 Thessalonians 3:6
> >> But, "First, remove the log from your own eye [...]"
> >Of course.
> >> >"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what
> >> fellowship
> >> >hath righteousness with unrighteousness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14
> >> "Love your enemies."
> >But don't live with them.
> >Don't let them into your community. Don't subsidize them. Don't
> put them
> >in positions of power or authority.
> >> "Do good to those who persecute you"
> >Which appears absolutely no place in the Holy Bible.
> >> "Turn the other cheek."
> >> "Go the extra mile."
> >> ~"Give 'em your shirt, too."
> >> Clearly, you've 'selected' incompletely, eh John?
> >> k. p. collins
> >Here you are quoting "kpcollins"'s which have no basis in the Holy
> >and you claim that I "selected incompletely"?
> >Let's get back to the actual Word:
> >Luke 6:29 To him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the
> >and from him that taketh away thy cloak withhold not thy coat also.
> >There's a time and a place for this, but you can't ignore the
> >to FIRST remove "those who walketh disorderly", can you?
> >You can't invite the enemy into your community, and then expect
> everyone to
> >"offer also the other" if the enemy is intent on destroying the
> >can you?
> >You need to put this in context.
> OK. Context: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
> Reiterated: "Forgive seventy times seven." [that is, endlessly.]
> There's more in Scripture than the 'verbal-symbols' themselves, John.
> And, for another thing, the need for Forgiveness is built right into
> nervous systems because nervous systems learn through experience, and
> experience is over-flowing with 'blind-alley' stuff. Absent
> Forgiveness, folks'd get 'stuck' in any 'bline'-alley' into which
> their experience carried them.
> It's =then= that Jesus Bekons: "Forgive."
> And, through our Forgiveness, voila, the 'trapped' folks are nurtured
> upon their way.
> All this is right-there, in the Teaching of Jesus [along with
> much-more, of course].
> But if one elevates the 'language'-interface stuff 'above' the larger
> underpinning stuff, one 'misses' what's in-there.
> k. p. collins
What you describe and desire is a functional society.
What you will never get with the jews here is a functional society. This is why Jesus warned us that jews were not of His realm:
Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Joh 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end have I been born, and to this end am I come into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
Joh 18:38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find no crime in him.
Joh 18:39 But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
Joh 18:40 They cried out therefore again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.)
And, from His Cross, Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."
To Christians, these words of Jesus are not some "wishful thinking".
They are Truth with respect to Being-Christian.
Deny such, and one 'denies' Christ.
It's what Jesus was lifting-up Peter to when Jesus rebuked Peter when Peter protested Jesus' going to Jerusalem.
Forgiveness doesn't, somehow, constitute a 'wanting-folks-to-hurt-you' - a 'condoning' of folks' hurting you - Forgiveness just goes forward, in Courage, declaring "I will not hurt you, even if you hurt me."
The Sense in-Forgiveness is that, if I'll not hurt you, then it's just a waste of your energy for you to hurt me.
And it's through the Sense-of-it that Forgiveness presents the =only= Opportunity to everything other-than-Savagery.
The Choice is ours - anyone can do it - Savagery, and the Diviciveness that it, unfailingly, breeds, or everything other-than-Savagery, and the Unity-of-purpose which it unfailingly breeds.
The 'Key' to the 'door' to everything other-than-Savagery is Forgiveness.
"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."
Look and see. Jesus presented us with the 'Key'., didn't He?
k. p. collins
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