From BIOSCI-REQUEST Fri Mar 8 01:27:24 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA25847; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:27:24 -0800 Received: from mips.agric.wa.gov.au (mips.agric.wa.gov.au [159.207.200.70]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA25822; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 01:26:53 -0800 Received: from mmgate.agric.wa.gov.au by mips.agric.wa.gov.au (5.61/1.34) id AA10975; Fri, 8 Mar 96 17:26:35 +0800 Received: by mmgate.agric.wa.gov.au with Microsoft Mail id <3140DD88@mmgate.agric.wa.gov.au>; Fri, 08 Mar 96 17:23:20 PST From: Loughman Rob To: rust-mildew Date: Fri, 08 Mar 96 17:25:00 PST Message-Id: <3140DD88@mmgate.agric.wa.gov.au> Encoding: 2 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 UNSUBSCRIBE RUST-MIL From BIOSCI-REQUEST Sun Mar 10 02:00:29 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA12143; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:00:29 -0800 Received: (from biohelp@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA12113; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:00:22 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:00:22 -0800 From: BIOSCI Administrator Message-Id: <199603101000.CAA12113@net.bio.net> To: rust-mil@net.bio.net Subject: IMPORTANT - BIOSCI Fundraising Update! I'm interrupting the usual monthly posting of the BIOSCI miniFAQ to bring you up to date on BIOSCI fundraising progress, a topic of concern to your future use of this resource. Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this message carefully. Last year we announced that BIOSCI was going to adopt the U.S. Public Broadcasting System model to fund its operations after our DOE/NSF grant runs out later this year. Unlike PBS, we are not soliciting contributions from users; we are only selling ads on our Web pages solely to cover our operating costs. Our goal is to seek sponsorships until we build up an operating reserve of about $100,000 and then cease further promotions until we need to build the reserve back up. (The accountants among our readership will be familiar with the problem of deferred revenue which we can not safely utilize until ads have been displayed for a period of time.) We have three sponsors to date with a couple more pending. The process is time-consuming, however, and we need your help as explained further below. Our operating costs consist of our network connection, phone lines, hardware maintenance (we hope to have new and faster hardware soon!), plus 0.7 FTE of salaries covering UNIX systems admin, technical support, quality assurance, i.e., testing, of our system, and administrative costs (such as the time it takes to actually find/write/call potential sponsors and raise money!). Although the BIOSCI staff does get compensated for a portion of the work that they do, this project has always received a lot of free after-hours and "vacation" time labor, so we hope that no one will begrudge the time that we do charge to the project to serve you. All of the three part-time staff members, Dave Mack, Julie Lawrence, and myself, have full time day jobs and families in addition to working hard to keep this service running for all of you. Julie and Dave Mack are subcontractors for BIOSCI; my time that is charged to the project defrays a portion of my regular salary instead of adding to my income. Besides having to relocate the project, we were very busy this last year building new infrastructure such as our WWW hypermail interface to the system. This was released last December along with scores of WAIS indices for the newsgroups. Virtually everything is complete, although we do continue to find and fix bugs (many through your helpful feedback!). We are still having some problems with our WAIS indexing. The archives continue to grow rapidly. We are running over 100 indexes now versus three previously and any systems crashes cause greater havoc with the indexing than before! We are still working to fix this as fast as our resources permit and appreciate your patience, but we have been able to automate a lot of the infrastructure to reduce labor as compared to past requirements. We have also implemented new software to make moderation of BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups much easier and combat the growing problem of Internet junk mail and USENET "spamming." About 20% of our groups are now moderated, many of them by the BIOSCI staff! This, for example, made a major difference last year in the quality of content in our EMPLOYMENT/bionet.jobs.offered newsgroup which many commercial concerns and recruiting firms are using **without charge** to recruit candidates for positions in the biological sciences. We are also now in a position to have sponsors for individual newsgroups as you will have noticed if you have visited http://www.bio.net/ and clicked on "Access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups" recently. So, how can you help?? ---------------------- As noted above it can take a lot of time to contact potential sponsors if I have to do it all myself. Our request is quite simple. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can now post or reply to messages via your Web browser. Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term. Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass this message on to your marketing or marketing communications department or other appropriate group. Please ask them to help support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are interested, they can then contact us for further information at our tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net. Our hope is to quickly raise several large corporate/institutional sponsors on our heavily-used WWW locations (some stats appended below), and then end this sponsorship campaign so that our resources can continue to be used for service provision, not fundraising. Many of our specialty newsgroup WWW archives are still used by small communities of scientists (and they haven't been heavily promoted yet). While these may be valuable niche markets to some advertisers, it will generate more labor and overhead having to find these sponsors, fairly price the locations, and deal with lots of smaller sponsorships than fewer mid-to large sponsors. We are striving to keep our operation as lean and efficient as possible since we are not trying to make careers out of running BIOSCI. We are trying if at all possible to avoid the administrative overhead entailed with processing lots of small payments to reach our fundraising goals. I'd like to thank all of you for your help in advance. In helping us, you are also helping yourselves, not only in keeping this resource available for all of the both large and small research communities that we serve, but also by alleviating the need for us to go back and compete with researchers for tight grant dollars! We promised NSF when we were awarded the BIOSCI grant that we would carry out this mission to make the service self-supporting. With your help, we will succeed in continuing BIOSCI's work into its second decade. Thank you very much! Sincerely, Dave Kristofferson BIOSCI/bionet Manager biosci-help@net.bio.net A list of our prime WWW sponsorship locations follow. Statistics are for the four week period from 22 Jan. - 18 Feb. 1996 and usage continues to grow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The overall BIOSCI WWW pages are currently visited by users from close to 5000 unique computer hosts per week. Web servers only log the Internet computer/host name and frequently more than one individual can connect to us from a particular host. Main home page, http://www.bio.net, visited recently by about 2100 unique hosts per week Main Newsgroups archives page, http://www.bio.net/archives.html, visited recently by about 1200 Unique hosts per week BIO-JOURNALS archive page, http://www.bio.net/BIO-JOURNALS.html, visited recently by about 1000 unique hosts per week. EMPLOYMENT archive pages: http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/EMPLOYMENT/ and monthly header pages, visited recently by about 600 unique hosts per week. Address database search page, http://www.bio.net/addrsearch.html, visited recently by about 450 unique hosts per week. Methods newsgroup archive pages, http://www.bio.net:80/hypermail/METHDS- REAGNTS/ and monthly header pages, visited recently by about 350 unique hosts per week. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Mar 11 08:54:41 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA07986; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:54:41 -0800 Received: from mail.unet.umn.edu (mail.unet.umn.edu [128.101.101.103]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA07983; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:54:39 -0800 Received: from puccini.crl.umn.edu by mail.unet.umn.edu (5.65c) id AA29971; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:52:10 -0600 Received: from [128.101.96.88] by puccini.crl.umn.edu; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:52:44 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 10:48:00 CST From: "John W. McCain" Message-Id: <52067.johnmc@puccini.crl.umn.edu> X-Minuet-Version: Minuet1.0_Beta_17A X-Popmail-Charset: English To: rust-mil@net.bio.net Subject: Latin names This message was spurred by the publication of Dick Korf's article in the January-February 1996 issue of Mycologia (the journal of the Mycological Society of America). That journal has instituted a new policy which will SIMPLIFY how names are cited in manuscripts. Note: this is not a change in names; it is a simplification of how you use the current names. The basis of this is a change in the latest edition of the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature. A decision has been made that, in a name such as "Puccinia recondita Roberge ex Desmaz.," the "Roberge ex" is part of the citation, NOT part of the name itself. That is, you include the "Roberge ex" ONLY if you are also giving the complete journal reference (Bull. Soc. Bot. France 4: 798. 1857) which is ONLY necessary in a formal taxonomic paper. Thus, in a paper on race surveys, new virulence genes, etc., you will be allowed to list the name of this fungus as "Puccinia recondita Desmaz." In fact, in a non-taxonomic paper, unless there is clear risk of confusion, you would have the option in Mycologia to list the fungus only as "Puccinia recondita" - i.e., no adding-on of author, date, journal at all. Summary: 1. omit the author name following "in" 2. omit the author name before "ex" 3. omit the double name of the sanctioning author (e.g., Pers.:Pers.) Therefore, the following seems to be applicable for most manuscripts: Current publication style "New" publication style Puccinia graminis Pers.:Pers. Puccinia graminis Pers. P. asparagi DC. in Lam. & DC. P. asparagi DC. P. malvacearum Bert. ex Mont. in Gay P. malvacearum Mont. P. melanocephala Syd. & P.Syd. in Syd., P.Syd., & Butl. P. melanocephala Syd. & P.Syd. (This does not change the reason for the longer names or cancel them, e.g., the "Pers.:Pers." format - it just means that only those of us doing formal taxonomy have to use them.) Note: the names of Puccinia coronata, P. hordei, P. striiformis, P. brachypodii, P. sorghi, P. polysora, P. helianthi, and numerous others are not affected. Note #2: if there is any confusion on how to apply this change to any rust name, I will be willing to advise. Note #3: the change in the Code of Nomenclature is in effect now, but Mycologia is the only journal I know of so far that has formally decided to use it. Perhaps their example will encourage other journals, e.g., Phytopathology, to soon follow suit. John W. McCain johnmc@puccini.crl.umn.edu From BIOSCI-REQUEST Mon Mar 11 13:50:36 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA13267; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:50:36 -0800 Received: from cheetah.it.wsu.edu (cheetah.it.wsu.edu [134.121.1.8]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA13255; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:50:27 -0800 Received: from mail.wsu.edu (xts2.net.wsu.edu [134.121.2.47]) by cheetah.it.wsu.edu (8.6.13/WSUit-1.1) with SMTP id NAA09688 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:46:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:46:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199603112146.NAA09688@cheetah.it.wsu.edu> X-Sender: newcombe@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rust-mil@net.bio.net From: George Newcombe Subject: rust life cycle names Dear Rust-Mildew Subscribers: There has been much speculation regarding the mode of overwintering of Melampsora species affecting Populus (poplars, cottonwoods, aspen). Some species apparently must perennate in the telial state so as to produce basidiospores to infect a suitable aecial host in the subsequent spring (e.g., M. occidentalis on Douglas fir, Pseudotsuga menziesii which commonly co-occurs with the telial host P. trichocarpa in the Pacific Northwest). On the other hand, uredinial-state overwintering is known to occur in coastal Italy where uredinia of M. pinitorqua appear on young shoots of aspen before signs of infection appear on local Pinus acting as the aecial host. In this latter case, uredinial-state overwintering allows successful genets to become perennial and also gives them a selective advantage each spring over the sexual recombinants occurring on Pinus. While M. occidentalis is clearly a macrocyclic heteroecious rust, what of M. pinitorqua? Is there a name for such a life cycle? Dr. George Newcombe Washington State University Puyallup Research & Extension Center Puyallup, WA, 98371-4998. Tel.: (206) 840 4726. Fax: (206) 840 4721 E-mail: newcombe@wsu.edu. From BIOSCI-REQUEST Fri Mar 15 09:19:41 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA01920; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:19:41 -0800 Received: from mail.unet.umn.edu (mail.unet.umn.edu [128.101.101.103]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA01889; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:19:34 -0800 Received: from puccini.crl.umn.edu by mail.unet.umn.edu (5.65c) id AA13782; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:15:42 -0600 Received: from [128.101.96.13] by puccini.crl.umn.edu; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:16:07 -0600 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 11:11:19 CST From: "John W. McCain" Message-Id: <53342.johnmc@puccini.crl.umn.edu> X-Minuet-Version: Minuet1.0_Beta_17A X-Popmail-Charset: English To: rust-mil@net.bio.net, rkorf@innet.com Subject: Re: Latin names To: Rust-mil list members Thank you to those who have commented on my earlier posting. In particular, I received a long message from Dr. R.P. Korf, who improved my understanding of some of the technical details (such as some incorrect names published between 1950-1980). Thank you, professor. 1. As Dr. Korf pointed out, the *key* message was rather buried: - for many purposes in Mycologia, NO author names need to be cited now. If an editor requires you to cite authors, what do most of us do, except for the species we know best - we grab the handiest book and copy down *ON FAITH!* whatever that author lists - right? (How can we do other- wise, as knowing the right name ourselves would mean keeping track of every taxonomic manuscript in dozens of journals as well as keeping track of all we need to know in our specialty area). The false precision gained this way, plus the errors too often resulting, are behind the Mycologia decision to make the citation of author names optional. 2. Secondarily, if a journal still asks for author names, you might be able to simplify how you cite them (This was the subject of most of my previous message). 3. I left out some parts of the story to get the main point across, and I was in error slightly. If you need more details, see the article by Dr. Korf in January - February 1996 Mycologia (it includes a "self-test"). a. For example, for many author names including "ex" what I said was correct but there are many exceptions, especially ones based on publications between 1801-1832 (many of these will be encountered as "ex Pers." or "ex Fr." - and the "ex" and the name FOLLOWING it will be dropped in many of these). b. This underscores the need to have names checked by your local mycologist and with the original publications, or anyone can write me and I will try to help. 4. BEWARE of names that have often been cited wrong in the past. For example, I could give you a list of several references that cite "Cronartium ribicola Fischer ex Rabenhorst" (such as Cummins) AS WELL AS a list of several references that cite the same fungus as "Fischer in Rabenhorst" (e.g., Arthur). If you follow one group, you will be right; if you follow the other, you will continue an error (and I am not going to tell you which for now). All in all, a good reason why most of us should be happy to omit author names and leave them to those (taxonomists) who are supposed to get excited about resolving things like this. 5. One other recent recommendation: For example, there is a Puccinia striiformis var. dactylidis in Europe and Asia. In papers about this species from those areas, you should explain whether you are studying P. striiformis var. dactylidis or P. striiformis var. striiformis. Unfortunately, in recent times, some journals have asked that papers about stripe rust in North America, for example, also list the fungus as P. striiformis var. striiformis, even though the alternate variety does not occur here (to my knowledge - am I right?) - but is it really necessary to state that you have the typical variety if that is the only possibility? Now the answer is no. 6. I hope this will help. It does not mean unlearning old names or learning new ones. It often will mean leaving out a detail that will not detract from most papers, and it may keep some new errors from cropping up, however unintentionally (but beware the pitfalls). I endorse the new Mycologia policy. John W. McCain USDA - ARS Cereal Rust Lab, Saint Paul, MN, USA johnmc@puccini.crl.umn.edu From BIOSCI-REQUEST Fri Mar 15 11:19:04 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA16904; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:19:04 -0800 Received: from cornell.edu (cornell.edu [132.236.56.6]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16896; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:19:00 -0800 Received: from greengenes.cit.cornell.edu (GREENGENES.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.142.73]) by cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA12559; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:16:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 14:16:27 EST From: "Dave Matthews" Received: by greengenes.cit.cornell.edu (4.1/2.0) id AA00982; Fri, 15 Mar 96 14:16:27 EST Message-Id: <9603151916.AA00982@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu> To: johnmc@puccini.crl.umn.edu Subject: Re: Latin names Cc: matthews@greengenes.cit.cornell.edu, rust-mil@net.bio.net > 5. One other recent recommendation: > > For example, there is a Puccinia striiformis var. dactylidis in Europe > and Asia. In papers about this species from those areas, you should explain > whether you are studying P. striiformis var. dactylidis or P. striiformis > var. striiformis. Unfortunately, in recent times, some journals have asked > that papers about stripe rust in North America, for example, also list the > fungus as P. striiformis var. striiformis, even though the alternate > variety does not occur here (to my knowledge - am I right?) - but is it > really necessary to state that you have the typical variety if that is > the only possibility? Now the answer is no. HELP!! How is a reader who isn't intimately familiar with P. striiformis supposed to know that an isolate must certainly be var. striiformis because it was studied in North America? Perhaps only experts would be really interested in the data anyway. But sometimes non-experts are involved in extracting data from the literature for incorporation into databases, and sometimes results get disconnected from geographical context in databases. We try to avoid this but it happens. What does it hurt to indicate the variety once in a paper, even if it is obvious to some people? - Dave Matthews Administrator, GrainGenes Database, http://wheat.pw.usda.gov From BIOSCI-REQUEST Tue Mar 19 06:15:33 1996 Return-Path: BIOSCI-REQUEST Received: (from daemon@localhost) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA07361; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:15:33 -0800 Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by net.bio.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA07335; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:15:24 -0800 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id af20426; 19 Mar 96 14:12 GMT Received: from rjohnson.demon.co.uk ([158.152.207.104]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa12026; 19 Mar 96 14:02 GMT Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:00:32 +0000 To: rust mildew network From: Roy Johnson Subject: Job at IRRI (not rust or mildew) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 1.11 <7IyKxFqTUhq6Uslak2GtNabk9U> I have been informed of an interesting job for a pathologist at IRRI - could be good for a rust-mil somebody needing to change fields. Diseases: emphasis on rice blast, sheath blight and bacterial blight. Genetic and molecular studies of host and pathogens for solving problems in sustainable pest and disease management. Full details can be obtained from Dr. Michael Cohen by fax 632 761 2406 or email IN%"M.COHEN@CGNET.COM" or I could give more details if you ask me. -- Roy Johnson Phone/Fax +44 1223 842507