Yes it was POSSIBLE to switch advisors from a procedural standpoint.
Emotionally, I could not have taken another minute of graduate school - I
would have surely had a nervous breakdown (If you knew me you would know
things must have been REALLY bad for me to say this). I will not discuss
this any further on the newsgroup - for it is too personal and painful to
discuss; so, I will say politely "Please don't ask and please don't
speculate. Just let it rest."
At any rate - I know I could do it now, for there are many things I would
turn myself off to and would not tolerate; but now I know even better than
when I left that science is not the career I want. As I have said before,
leaving was the best thing I ever did.
I just get a pang in my heart thinking about MY PhD (or PhC as it stands
now) it because what happened to me should not happen to anyone. I guess
you can chalk it up to another bright and motivated person who slipped
through the grad school cracks and fell victim to a rather sick system. It
is a cryin' shame, and that is what makes me sad, and yes, makes me
furious too.
In regards to the other side of the story? (I am unsure if this was your
comment). I know what happened to me, and yes that is my side of the
story. However, the other side is, to me, irrelevant - nobody should be
driven to the point I was (yes, part was my own fault, I will admit that -
but my advisor played a huge role in it). And I am sure what Alice has
seen is similar to other people I know who fall out of favor with their
advisors (often doing damn good work that disproves a pet theory) and are
absolutely given hell for it (in various ways). This, I agree is
especially bad when women are not supportive of other women. The comment
there (other side) is rather ambiguous. Would you be so kind as to
clarify? And,please, tell us who you are; after all it's only fair.
Adios - I am not writing on this group for a while. I feel rather raked
over and frankly I can't take it anymore at the moment, and I have finals
coming up. Time to study and time to start a new era. See ya'll in
lurker land.
Jenn
On 29 Nov 1996, Leemor wrote:
> Jenn wrote:
> >
> >You are right, I am still furious. I think I will always be resentful to
> >the fact that I should have my PhD. It really hit me hard on wednesday
> >when Sarah graduated.
> snip
>> Wasn't it possible to switch advisors?
>> Alice wrote:
>> >> Just out of curiosity, Sarah, does your boss read this newsgroup? I would
> >> be interested in what her opinion of all this is. If I were Jenn, i would
> >> still be FURIOUS at this woman and would not be willing to let bygones be
> >> bygones at this late date merely because she is pleased Jenn has managed
> >> to find success in another career path. Too little far too late. I don't
> >> care how inexperienced, raw or even roguish this woman (the PI) was----I
> >> vow that if I ever get to have students, especially WOMEN students, that I
> >> will be supportive. I will not sacrifice them to my own career goals. I
> >> have seen it happen over and over again and wonder why people are willing
> >> to do it---has it never been done to them?
> >>
>> I think one should be very careful making judgements without hearing the
> other side of the story.
>>>>>>
