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Getting hazy

Deirdre Sholto-Douglas finch at MCS.COM
Sat Jul 11 10:38:05 EST 1998


In bionet.women-in-bio bmartin at utmem1.utmem.edu wrote:
: In article <35A3C5B1.9F83C0B2 at nospamsalk.edu>, forsburg at nospamsalk.edu wrote:

: > But, apparently that makes me a hazer, so I will now withdraw from this 
: > thread and go beat my graduate students.

: This is exactly what Caroline was citing.  No post has suggested that
: criticism be withheld.  No post has equated criticism with hazing.  It is

The phrase "Is it my imagination or does this discussion look like a
debate on hazing?" does not appear to be a case of equating 
criticism with hazing to you?  Given that the debate, such as it
is, *was* on criticism and suddenly the word 'hazing' appears,
someone most certainly *has* drawn a parallel.

: Surprisingly, you SEEM to be becoming defensive when your views are
: challenged. I would have thought you would welcome a healthy discussion.  

Why shouldn't she be defensive?  She's defending her views.  To
defend something one has to adopt a 'defensive' posture.  And,
perhaps, off-topic, why is it that being defensive is considered
a Bad Thing? 

The discussion *is* healthy...it's positively fecund.  Look at
all the offspring it has given rise to and look at the interaction
it has engendered.  This is, IMO, *exactly* the sort of discussion
which belongs in this newgroup and it's creating a marvelous forum
of give and take. 

Deirdre
 
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| Deirdre Sholto-Douglas      | e-mail:  finch at mcs.com               |
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