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trial by fire

Chris Hitchcock hitchcoc at sfu.ca
Fri Jul 17 00:55:43 EST 1998


In article <6oiepf$4eo$1 at Jupiter.Mcs.Net>,
Deirdre Sholto-Douglas <finch at MCS.COM> wrote in response to:
>In bionet.women-in-bio morphis at niuhep.physics.niu.edu wrote:
>: Maybe, just maybe, if you explicitly tell your mentoree that you want to 
>: role play a harsh Q and A session, including a safeword then that might be 
>: reasonable.  And if that is what you had in mind I apologize for my 

><boggle> A safeword?!  God ghod, you don't have a very high opinion
>of students, do you?  And people wonder why instructors become 
>disillusioned...it's suggestions like this, with all the spoon-fed,
>pre-digested pap inherent therein, which make me want to weep for
>where the educational system is heading.  

Deirdre, when I read the comment about "safe words" I grinned -- I took 
it as a reference to the use of a word by partners who are into B&D or
S&M - a word which means "I really do mean stop this". And the parallels
with play-acting an inappropriately aggressive interaction with a 
scientific heckler didn't seem out of line, even funny.

Your reply, though, I think just contributes to more animousity. It's 
pretty hard to come back to comments like "spoon-fed, pre-digested pap"
with any sense that the person you are talking to respects you much.

It may not be a four-letter word, but the ad hominem (ad domina?) 
attacks in other parts of your posting ("you clearly don't have much 
experience", etc) also lower the tone of what can be a serious
debate about whether it is necessary to toughen up your students
directly to prepare them for the real world, and, if so, how to 
best do it. 

	Chris.


	Chris.







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